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Each has their advantages and disadvantages.
The goal isn't to replace AFs with ABs, but rather add extra versatility allowing people to fit MWDs.

I couldn't kill a Hawk in a Daredevil. I mean I could but it'd take me his full supply of active injection, since he was active injecting and active shield boosting.

I'm just saying, that whole idea has been thrown at me a couple of times and it was over before it really started.
I was like, "oh, that was it? mmkkkk".

Could you please enlighten us which AF has its damage projection so good that can deal with said double web Hawk setup with ease, Einstein?

I'm not saying that I do that. Surely I'm referring to those pubbies less skilled than I

New ishkur not only has less dmg then new enyo but due to lower armor HP also less tank. The 80 dps you can send out that, even with the hp bonus, still die in few seconds if shot by frigates. The ECM drones you can field are of course golden but Ishkur is still a close range boat. Drones are bad at medium ranges, if you cant scoop your drones immediately you will most likely lose them if someone decides to destroy them or you have to warp out. DonGÇÖt get me wrong, the hp bonus is fine in itself because it helps you to manage your drones better but what I donGÇÖt like is the 5/lvl bandwidth bonus. Remove that entirely, give ishkur 25 base bandwidth and replace it with a hybrid tracking bonus. Ishkur would still deal less dmg and have less tank but the overall package would be better.

Shooting hobgobs in a hawk is pointless - they're beating on your strongest resist, so just leave them be and focus on the ishkur. Also, don't use kinetic missiles against T2 gallente hulls! Your 50% damage bonus won't begin to compensate for the fact that you're shooting at a resist of 86%+....

I've got to say, I too am a little sceptical that an ishkur could beat a dualweb hawk shooting EM rockets.

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Can samone point a good pvp use for an Assault friget!

Ok just try that setup and tell me what is able to get you...

[quote=Alex Medvedov]

Here I am throwing all the assault frigates into impossible situations and against serious odds. You, know. To accurately reflect the fact. Most anything can happen in even and you're generally engaging multiple ships. What is the most viable ship in said engagements...

New ishkur not only has less dmg then new enyo but due to lower armor HP also less tank. The 80 dps you can send out that, even with the hp bonus, still die in few seconds if shot by frigates.

I am really wondering that you even tried to shot his LIGHT drones with ROCKETS. This is the only case where shooting the drones is stupid... does not matter which drones were used, shooting them with rockets in that fit was not a good move because you want to maintain range with the webs. you know, light drones have interceptor like signature and awesome base speed, you will scratch them at best unless you dual web the drones instead which makes your fit kind of pointless. I guess you kept webs on the ishkur and tried to kill his drones but you barely scratched them and thus he was able to wear your shields down.

2 out of 6 AS have difficulties shooting down light drones due to the weapon system (which was actually obvious anyway) but now try to shoot the drones with any turret based AS and they will melt fast.

@Korg
Everyone who has tried to kill my Ishkur spends some time trying to kill my drones.
They are light drones with medium drone hp. I have more than enough time to recall and release them before they get popped.

Minmatar Online, when will this **** end?

- Kem.